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Frank, You the Man.

Ok so I have the Advance Steel package form Autodesk put I just got clearance to upgrade to the Architecture, Engineering & Construction Collection that has Civil 3D and Map 3D.

As soon as I get it all downloaded I will let you know.

Have a Great day.

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@maustin
I’m going to put together a quick tutorial for QGIS so that you can do this . You want to get familiar with QGIS because it is a Swiss army knife and importing your csv file in Autocad will try your patience.

I the meantime drag and drop the .shp file from the zip I sent into QGIS.

Open Qgis
Start new project
Drag and drop .shp file
Turn on a map for your area. Google hybrid is what I used.
Drag the map below the shape file in the lower left panel or you won’t see your points.

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@maustin
Attached you will find the directions for uploading to QGIS. This should get you started with QGIS and it will get easier with use.

Upload CSV File to QGIS.zip (994.4 KB)

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This was the main thing that needed to happen if you weren’t interested in QGIS.

Heretic! To the stake you go. :smile:

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I feel so dirty now.

@michaelL

He better get acquainted with QGIS if he wants to work with GIS data. The learning curve is steep but not as steep as Civil or Map. Unless he makes an ODBC connection for his CSV files he’s looking at reconfiguring them before ACAD will accept and he still won’t have all his data.

Does the new Reach export in .shp yet?

From my experience, Global Mapper is the swiss army knife for GIS. Been using it for at least 15 years. Each update gets better and better. I’m looking forward to their newest update for GM Pro. Just upgraded and will be released soon. One of the features I’m looking forward to is their raster to vector tool. Their LIDAR module is phenomenal. It’ll be included in the PRO version.

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by QGIS

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@EBE111057

Bryan,

Not familiar with this product but I see it is one that costs. The beauty of QGIS is that there is no up front cost except for the time to learn the program.

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Yep, I agree ! I use GM in our business and it has always been a reliable tool. I’ve been wanting to try QGIS, but never seem to have the time since I’m always getting work out from AutoCAD world. At the end of the day, I’m usually so burnt out from sitting at a computer all day I don’t hardly want to use my phone, let alone my workstation at home. I’ve heard and seen good things about it.

If you look at some of the features in GM, like “pixels to points” and the LIDAR module, it’s well worth the money.

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ReachView 3 only exports in CSV.

So here is the deal, I’m the lead designer at a construction company that has move into surveying. I am going into the field collecting data and then I go and design the project. Once the project is designed I will go back out and layout the project. But I need to move back in forth between ReachView 3 and ACAD.

I will learn what ever software I need to get the job done, that is not an issue I have time. The issue is knowing what software to spend time on. Up to now I could not find an actual successful workflow. There is a lot of junk information out there.

Thanks again everyone,

@EBE111057

Bryan,

I’m just a simple hack using my reach units for approximate locations. People who need to have survey quality results need to look elsewhere for advice. I’m not sure that the OP doesn’t need to hire someone skilled in surveying for his needs. As always, good tools are worth the money you spend, cheap tools end up in the garbage.

Take a look at the document I uploaded for the OP, it is a quick and dirty introduction to QGIS which will import CSV files with ease and gives a multitude of export options.

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Are you saying that the reach RS+ is not a good tool?

No, sorry I was not clear. I was talking, about software. Many on this forum are professional surveyors and as such they use specialized software that comes at a cost. Since my results aren’t that critical I look for no cost or low cost alternatives.

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Frank, I started in this business being an expert in the use of a bushaxe (1972). Moved up to rear chainman, then head chainman, note keeper for instrument operator, computer in the field using trig tables/slide rules, instruments operator; all in my high school days.

One thing that keeps me going in this profession is the desire to learn new software, methodologies and equipment. I’m 63 now and have been stuck in the office and AutoCAD world for the past 5 years due to a back injury and knowing too much. I occasionally get to go in the field but my baby brother (53) says I’m too much dead weight to be able to help in the field.

I enjoy learning new things and just by your posts, you appear to also. Maybe one day I’ll need your help/advice whenever I get to investigate QGIS. I’ve got it downloaded and I try to read a little about it when I’ve got free time. It really sounds like a great piece of software developed by the GIS community.

I plan on slowing down a little, but hopefully the good Lord will let me work till the day he calls me.

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@EBE111057
Bryan,
I too am 63 and yes, making software do what I want is a pleasurable experience.
I came to GIS late in life in semi retirement and was terribly confused at the beginning of my journey. I, like the OP, had never worked with a GIS platform but had lots of CAD experience. It seems more straightforward now but I struggled in the dark for quite a while and still have a long way to go. Good people on this forum and the Autocad forums helped me find my way.

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Are you getting nostalgic on us? I remember my machete days! I remember becoming immune to poison ivy as well and what it took to get there. :slight_smile: :wink:

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Kind of, my brother came in early the other day and since I “wasn’t doing anything” he told me to sharpen his bushaxe for him because it was dull. It was a good break from being in AutoCAD world. It took me about 10 min with a new bastard file, you could cut paper with it ! I miss trimming and marking property lines. He had just finished flagging and marking about 1500’ of line in about 2 hours. It was big oak woods, hardly any underbrush. Something that’s not seen here as much as we use to in the 70’s. Timber companies have all but wiped out the hardwoods here and replaced with 20 year pine forests. He used our JAVAD Triumph LS with radio RTK for offset and line points. It’s a sweet scientific/geodetic receiver.that rules in multi-path areas.

I had set a couple of control points with the RS2 using the RTN about a week earlier after work as it was on my way home. He said they were off 0.03’. I told him he would have to live with it.

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FWIW I’ve attached my latest notes of how I export QGIS data to DXF and import it back in. Might not work for you but could give some ideas. It’s a crude document but I need it since I don’t do this often and spend too much time relearning the process when I do want to do it.

Cheers,
Robin

QGIS how to - from DXF to CSV for surveying points.pdf (698.5 KB)

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