Any tips how to re-insert the helicoil without the installation tang?
Self induced attempting something creative that wasn’t exactly successful .
You can buy Helicoil installation tools.
Maybe try some local work shops, you never know, someone might be willing to help?
Hi Wombo,
This isn’t something you should generally run into. Could you please email us at [email protected]? I’ll need to ask for some sensitive information, and it’s best to handle that there. I’ll help you get this sorted.
Maybe screw the helicoil back onto a small extension (or rover pole etc) and try to twist it back in? If too tight maybe freeze the helicoil and extension to shrink it? Or order proper helicoil / insert tool kit.
I always buy these, you can find cheaper though. These are solid metal. Adds 0.1 meter to instrument height, very convenient.
Yes i use them also more convienant than emlids release because they can be used one handed and you are holding the release stub
With emlids you have to use two hands and end up holding he receiver
Yeah, those r waaay overpriced… i get the same ones from Amazon or Ebay… and more than likely all come from the same factory in Chyyyyyna.
Hi guys,
Thanks for sharing your experience. It seems the steel spring was attached loosely. Since this is a completely new adapter, we’ve decided to replace it for @Wombo to ensure it works reliably in future use.
I understand the convenience of one-handed use. I’ve shared your feedback with the team.
I use these as well.
In the past (on other equipment) I have used some tiny dots of CA glue on the outside of the HELICOIL or the inside of the adapter to allow the thread to set and then you should be able to unscrew whatever element you have in there without it pulling the HELICOIL back out. You can use a small flathead tool to hold it in place once you have unscrewed it a bit if needed.
I’ve been using the SitePro Leica-style quick release for more than a year and love them. I have noticed a small wobble and wondered exactly how precise their design is now that we’re introducing tilt into the mix, so I was interested in trying out Emlid’s quick release. However, Emlid’s has wobbled more over time, has plastic at critical parts (probably the source of the wobble), and is tricky to use. I haven’t noticed any significant improvement on accuracy with the tilt. I’ll likely switch back to the SitePro.
I have been using the Seco/SitePro adapters for years and have experienced the same with wear over time. There are ways to tighten it back up by fortifying the interior of the adapter or adding a very thin nylon shim under the adapter to tighten up the click when attached and lessens the wobble.
There’s minimal play in the adapters, i.e.<1-2mm. They all have some, however you won’t see it in any GNSS measurements or even terrestrial for that matter. It’s just the nature of the design in my opinion.
I’m not certain which adapter you mean, the SitePro or the Emlid, but going with your estimate: if I tilt the receiver to see 1mm of daylight under it on one side, difference extended out on a 2.05m pole amounts to ~4cm of error on the measurement. This is NOT acceptable for survey standards.
Wonder how tight the Trimble quick-disconnect is compared the Emlid one (obviously which Emlid was inspired by) I would never pay almost $400 for it though… yes Trimble is a sheer luxury (Amazon and Ebay have cheaper knock-offs):
Trimble R10 Adapter | AllTerra Central Trimble R10 Adapter | AllTerra Central
I have used the Emlid counterpart yet, but we use these on some of our Trimble units. Solid build and has done well over the last 2.5 years, but… that lever is a major PITA to use when cold, especially with gloves. Not very quick release in those conditions.