RS2 and no Beidou Ntrip corrections

Hi! I’m from Poland. I am currently testing RS2. I have a problem because only Beidou corrections don’t work in RTN measurement (satellites are visible but are not taken for resolution). What could be the reason? I currently have version 2.21.2 installed.
I think it’s a hardware problem.

How do you see that they aren’t used?
What is your NTRIP source?

here in Argentina Galileo corrections work badly, I don’t know if it’s something that happens to all users. The gray bars on some E satellites have not been noticed for months with NTrip corrections

I can see in Quick Gnss or SurvCE software (satellites are visible but not used for calculations).
Used from the “RtkNet” provider. I also checked “Nadowski” and “VRSNet” providers. In any case, there are no corrections with Beidou. I also inserted a sim card and connected to NTRIP. After choosing the RTCM32-MSM mount point, I can see that corrections from all constellations are provided by the supplier (in ReachView format 1124).
So I think the problem is in RS2!

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Hi @marcin,

Please, share the following data with us:

  • Simple System report
  • The screenshot of the Correction input tab while Reach is getting corrections. Please click on “∨” button to show the list of messages Reach accepts from the caster

Are you certain your RTN correction source support Beidou? Here we have a public RTN service but it only supports (the receiver only records) GPS and GLONASS. So for RTN on this network, I never see any Galileo or Beidou satellites considered in the calculation.

This seems to me like your situation would be expected if it is similar to ours.

Corrections are 4 systems. There is no problem on other professional receivers (I will not exchange brands).
Below is the Simple System report and screenshots

Simple system report

app version: 2.20.8-rs2-r0

'wifi_status, interface: wlan0':

- wifi_mode: infrastructure

- ip: 192.168.43.196

  is_added: true

  is_connected: true

  is_visible: false

  mac_address: 6C:21:A2:93:27:F6

  security: open

  ssid: Marcin

  uuid: 085bec88-61ba-4685-a2a5-2baf33fcb562

base mode:

  base coordinates:

    accumulation: '2'

    antenna offset:

      east: '0'

      north: '0'

      up: '0'

    coordinates:

    - '0'

    - '0'

    - '0'

    format: llh

    mode: single-and-hold

  output:

    enabled: false

    format: rtcm3

    path: tcpsvr://:9000#rtcm3

    type: tcpsvr

  rtcm3 messages:

    '1006':

      enabled: true

      frequency: '0.1'

    '1074':

      enabled: true

      frequency: '1'

    '1084':

      enabled: true

      frequency: '1'

    '1094':

      enabled: true

      frequency: '1'

    '1124':

      enabled: true

      frequency: '1'

bluetooth:

  discoverable: true

  enabled: true

  pin: '***'

correction input:

  input2:

    enabled: true

    format: rtcm3

    path: geocad:***@[185.172.87.119:2101/RTCM32-MSM](http://185.172.87.119:2101/RTCM32-MSM)

    send position to base: single

    type: ntripcli

  input3:

    enabled: false

    format: rtcm3

    path: :9028

    type: tcpsvr

logging:

  base:

    format: RTCM3

    started: true

    version: null

  correction:

    format: RTCM3

    started: true

    version: null

  interval: 24

  overwrite: true

  raw:

    format: UBX

    started: true

    version: null

  solution:

    format: LLH

    started: true

    version: null

lora:

  air rate: 2.6000000000000001

  frequency: 868000

  output power: 20

position output:

  output1:

    enabled: true

    format: nmea

    path: bluetooth

    type: bluetooth

  output2:

    enabled: false

    format: llh

    path: :9001

    type: tcpsvr

  output3:

    enabled: true

    format: llh

    path: :2014

    type: tcpsvr

  output4:

    enabled: true

    format: llh_ext

    path: :2015

    type: tcpsvr

rtk settings:

  elevation mask angle: '15'

  glonass ar mode: 'off'

  gps ar mode: fix-and-hold

  max horizontal acceleration: '1'

  max vertical acceleration: '1'

  positioning mode: kinematic

  positioning systems:

    compass: true

    galileo: true

    glonass: true

    gps: true

    qzss: true

  snr mask: '35'

  update rate: '1'

Hi @marcin,

As I can see from the screenshot, Reach is getting corrections for B10 and B14 satellites from the base. May I ask you to clarify why do you think they’re not used in the computation?

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This is the result of the geodetic program (quick gnss and survce).
I use the receiver only in RTK mode. Base mode is off, so why are the gray bars displayed when base mode is off?

I don’t know if it’s a language issue or if I misunderstand your point, but why would base mode being enabled or disabled affect correction input (grey bars being indicative of this)? They are not really related. Base mode is to transmit a correction, correction input to receive it.

I wrote to the software manufacturer quickgnss to check why beidou is missing. I got the answer: “The file you sent is raw data in the form of NMEA protocol sent by the GNSS receiver via Bluetooth. In the file you sent there is no log beginning with” BD ", which means that the receiver does not send information about Beidou satellites. The ReachView application you use works via WiFi and uses a different protocol, therefore it can display information about Beidou satellites. We suggest that you ask the manufacturer to update the receiver’s firmware so that data on Beidou satellites are also sent via Bluetooth. "
If necessary, I will attach the NMEA file

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Am I understanding correctly that your issue was in external software through Bluetooth, and not in ReachView?

If this is the case, the reason no one could understand is because there was no explicit mention of the problem being in external software and it seems everybody thought you were having the problem in ReachView.

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In the second post I wrote that the problem concerns quick gnss and survce software. There is also the same problem in Fieldgenius. I am sorry if I write incomprehensibly (my English is not good).
As I mentioned - the problem probably concerns sending data via bluetooth, in which data from Beidou is missing. I am asking the Emlid team to check this problem.

Hi @marcin,

We’ll try to reproduce the issue. I’ll write back once we have any updates.

Hi @marcin,

On the v2.21.2 firmware version, Reach outputs GBGSV and GBGSA strings in the NMEA message. They contain information about BeiDou satellites in the viewing mask. This is the latest NMEA-0183 v4.11 standard.

It seems that the app you use expects GSV and GSA strings with BD talker ID, which corresponds to the NMEA-0183 v4.10.

We are working on adding support for various NMEA versions.

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